THE RED GAMBIT SERIES

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at November 21, 2016 at 3:15 AM

Keith Lange at November 20, 2016 at 4:08 AM

Namely German and American machine guns. Does that apply to personal weaponry as well?

Basically, the same rules apply for the Legion. the suspicion is that the Germans gave them Schwarzpanthers et al to make them more effective and help more with their own plans. the French were already manufacturing their own ST44 which is present in Endgame in numbers. In the first instance, the reasoning would probably be make French weapons for the new French units being reconstituted and, with a mind to logistics, keep the ex-German stuff with the Legion, although things like the M2 had no equal in Wehrmacht or French inventories anyway. The same goes for the MG42 of course, and by don't of association makes the retention of the 34 sound for logistics. Handguns are what they are, and if you have one, steal one, or find one, you keep it, regardless of its parentage.

And the Tirraileurs? Also, ST44s or ST45s? And, if you don't mind my asking, just out of curiosity, what French weapons for the new regular French Army? PS, thanks for taking the time and trouble to asnwer my questions.

Who or what were the RTAs? Also, in the limited excerpt on Amazon, I noticed a Tirraileur had a ST45. He must have got that from a Legionaire, huh?

Regiment de Tirailleur Algerians. As Sulislawice and the previous fighting was pretty desperate, weapons would have become available as casualties mounted methinks.

Here's a thread on the movie "Days of Glory" which may be of interest in this particular regard. Pay especialy attention to the Johannes2 guy, he seems to know his stuff:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0444182/board/thread/83097486

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at November 21, 2016 at 3:15 AM

Keith Lange at November 20, 2016 at 4:08 AM

Namely German and American machine guns. Does that apply to personal weaponry as well?

Basically, the same rules apply for the Legion. the suspicion is that the Germans gave them Schwarzpanthers et al to make them more effective and help more with their own plans. the French were already manufacturing their own ST44 which is present in Endgame in numbers. In the first instance, the reasoning would probably be make French weapons for the new French units being reconstituted and, with a mind to logistics, keep the ex-German stuff with the Legion, although things like the M2 had no equal in Wehrmacht or French inventories anyway. The same goes for the MG42 of course, and by don't of association makes the retention of the 34 sound for logistics. Handguns are what they are, and if you have one, steal one, or find one, you keep it, regardless of its parentage.

>the reasoning would probably be make French weapons for the new French units being reconstituted

Just out of curiosity, what French weapons are you referring to? Also, will we see those units in action in Caissa?

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at February 5, 2014 at 3:50 AM

My research indicated solely that the division was underarmed in general terms, and equipped itself with anything it could beg, borrow, or steal. I think it would be more than fair to expect a lot of German kit, as well as any weapons used by the Vichy forces. I have seen pictures of FFI infantry in Alsace [which is where 14th was raised], and they were using thompsons, stens, Kar98s, and a number of weapons that I couldnt identify, although they had the look of something a bit long in the tooth.

Could those "long in the tooth" rifles be the Lebel or the Gras mle 1874?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusil_Gras_mle_1874

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at November 22, 2016 at 6:44 AM

The tirailleurs would have what the RTAs inherited in WW2, which was a mix of US, British, and a few French. If they had been part of the French proper, rather than attached to the Legion, that might have been different.

What was the Legionaires standar rifle(s)? Was it just the St44, or were other models used?

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at December 5, 2016 at 2:42 AM

Initially, they were armed from captured German stocks, reducing training requirements.

I was interested in the Legion during the events of Endgame. Did they still have the same, or were there any changes? Like did the St44 become the more-or-less standard rifle by that time?.

Keith Lange at December 5, 2016 at 10:20 PM

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at December 5, 2016 at 2:42 AM

Initially, they were armed from captured German stocks, reducing training requirements.

I was interested in the Legion during the events of Endgame. Did they still have the same, or were there any changes? Like did the St44 become the more-or-less standard rifle by that time?.

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at December 6, 2016 at 3:20 AM

Keith Lange at December 5, 2016 at 10:20 PM

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at December 5, 2016 at 2:42 AM

Initially, they were armed from captured German stocks, reducing training requirements.

I was interested in the Legion during the events of Endgame. Did they still have the same, or were there any changes? Like did the St44 become the more-or-less standard rifle by that time?.

More the ST-45 as I said a while back, being French-produced. However, there will be all sorts. I cut the section with the M2 machine gun.

Didn't you say it was the St44, rather than the 45? Also, I would think that by the time of Endgame, most Legion riflemen would have either a ST-44, a ST-45 or a G-43, the kar98k's would be left to the rifle grenadiers.

Keith Lange at December 6, 2016 at 6:49 PM

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at December 6, 2016 at 3:20 AM

Keith Lange at December 5, 2016 at 10:20 PM

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at December 5, 2016 at 2:42 AM

Initially, they were armed from captured German stocks, reducing training requirements.

I was interested in the Legion during the events of Endgame. Did they still have the same, or were there any changes? Like did the St44 become the more-or-less standard rifle by that time?.

More the ST-45 as I said a while back, being French-produced. However, there will be all sorts. I cut the section with the M2 machine gun.

Didn't you say it was the St44, rather than the 45? Also, I would think that by the time of Endgame, most Legion riflemen would have either a ST-44, a ST-45 or a G-43, the kar98k's would be left to the rifle grenadiers.

I simply dont remember. I think it was you made teh point about the CEAM and I figured it was reasonable, so in m y minds eye, theyhad a lot of ST45s. There was and is still a place for a long rifle of course.