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I'm asking because the US is having the select fire derivation of the Garand, while the Soviets are getting the SKS, and later on the AK-47, and of course the Germans are having the St44. Will the British and COmmonwealth forces have a semiauto or assault rifle in the future? Also, will the various Armies still use the orignal rifles that they had at the start of WWIII for the most part? That is, will most US troops still have the semi auto only original Garand, the Soviets still use the Mosin series mostly, and the Germans still use the kar98k for the most part? I'm posting this partly because I'm curious, and because it's been a while since anyone posted anything new.

Tricky. I did look at the FAL but simply cant get it developed in time, given the fact that FN are working on German designs. Im contemplating getting the Swedes to ramp up the Gustav ahead of time. Whilst I was thinking about the Swedes I discovered the automatic rifle they developed [CarL-Gustav M42] and have tey to decide if they will export it in numbers. Given the present swedish stance, it might not be possible.

i dont see a bolt action rifle development, or smg, or lmg... or hmg for that matter. The enfield was a sound piece of kit for a bolt, the sten was what it was, as was teh Bren, and the vickers was old reliable.

i can see the British adopting other equipment, firstly in special forces and then gradually across the board.

The MG42, ST44, Garands and.50cal woudl find a place in the british TOE if I play it right.

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at June 17, 2015 at 5:02 AM

Tricky. I did look at the FAL but simply cant get it developed in time, given the fact that FN are working on German designs. Im contemplating getting the Swedes to ramp up the Gustav ahead of time. Whilst I was thinking about the Swedes I discovered the automatic rifle they developed [CarL-Gustav M42] and have tey to decide if they will export it in numbers. Given the present swedish stance, it might not be possible.

i dont see a bolt action rifle development, or smg, or lmg... or hmg for that matter. The enfield was a sound piece of kit for a bolt, the sten was what it was, as was teh Bren, and the vickers was old reliable.

i can see the British adopting other equipment, firstly in special forces and then gradually across the board.

The MG42, ST44, Garands and.50cal woudl find a place in the british TOE if I play it right.

Are you familiar with the SLEM-1? It's a semi-auto rifle similar to the later FN-49/SAFN. The British were considering adopting it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLEM-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Model_1949

also check out the Charlton Automatic Rifle. it is heavy at 16 pounds but NewZeland fielded them in 1944.

Rejected the Charlton out of hand, Im afraid, Cawest. Simply couldn't see the point of the damn thing lol Bren was up to the same standard as far as I see it. From what I read, it was put together to cover shortfalls in bren production, which is not now a problem. Good find though. I hadnt heard of it until about two years ago. There's a lot of crazy dstuff out there. However, the SLEM is another matter. I was not aware of that at all, and will look at it closely.

Keep having these good thoughts, gentlemen, and thank you.

i was thinking as using the Charlton as the base to start with, mod it so that its lighter (how about rechanbering it to fire the Germany round or something like that). it might be a counter to the AK-47 in firepower.

I get where you''re coming from, but would it be simpler to produce ST44s instead, certainly better for allied standardisation. Looking at the Charlton, it simply looks like neither fish nor fowl, and unwieldy to say the least.

gee_colin@yahoo.co.uk at June 17, 2015 at 5:02 AM

Tricky. I did look at the FAL but simply cant get it developed in time, given the fact that FN are working on German designs. Im contemplating getting the Swedes to ramp up the Gustav ahead of time. Whilst I was thinking about the Swedes I discovered the automatic rifle they developed [CarL-Gustav M42] and have tey to decide if they will export it in numbers. Given the present swedish stance, it might not be possible.

i dont see a bolt action rifle development, or smg, or lmg... or hmg for that matter. The enfield was a sound piece of kit for a bolt, the sten was what it was, as was teh Bren, and the vickers was old reliable.

i can see the British adopting other equipment, firstly in special forces and then gradually across the board.

The MG42, ST44, Garands and.50cal woudl find a place in the british TOE if I play it right.

Will the British adopt the Garand regardless of how the SLEM-1 goes? Especially for units working with the Americans?

if the Garand was available, i woudl doubt the brits would trun it down. However, there might be other calls on the Garand elsewhere.